Me n Milf occasionally get together in orkut for discussing tech stuff. We teach, we learn, we argue, we exchange facts and links to prove and disprove... It's fun, you know.
Last time, on Nov 16, I saw a video in his orkut profile. It was about Steve Jobs introducing Macintosh to the world for the first time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0FtgZNOD44
Steve Jobs demos Apple Macintosh, 1984
It was very sweet and moving and we started scrapping.
Color code : Ash, Milf
>Dude... The Steve Jobs video is sooo sweeeett. It almost made me cry man. I dunno why, but it's really touching... I love Apple. I love Mac.
It made me cry too. :D Not "almost", I really cried. :)
And I got the video from Rony's orkut videos.
>I admit it too :)
He's soo proud and happy and... He should be right? And the whole idea, the whole presentation, the idea of making Mac talk... And calling him Father and all...
Touching.
>This made me feel lighter :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upzKj-1HaKw
Steve Jobs On Microsoft
And this -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxOp5mBY9IY
Macworld Boston 1997-The Microsoft Deal
Man, they really are like black and white right? :o
>Errr... In the vid he says -
"Mac+Microsoft = 100% of Desktop Computing"...
"Microsoft is the only other player"...
What the heck is he saying? :o
1997 = No linux?
May be he considered all *nix as Mac. :P
Nice videos man...
In the second video, it shows MS buying 150 mil dollars worth of Apple shares.
Check out this link - http://www.swivel.com/data_columns/spreadsheet/1465814. The price of AAPL during 1997 was 12 dollars, market price. I think MS might have bought it at a little bit higher price probably, even though it is non-voting shares. But still, it's a lot of shares.
Look at the price of AAPL now - http://finance.google.com/finance?q=NASDAQ:AAPL . 164 dollars!!! Think of how much Apple has grown in the last 10 years... Almost 14-15 times. If MS still has Apple shares, they are worth billions now... Apple now is HUGE in stock market, with a market valuation more than even IBM!!! Considering how Apple is a much smaller company compared to MS or IBM, and considering how small Apple's revenues are compared to MS or IBM. Probably one of the best business decisions Billy Gates ever made, buying those Apple shares at that time. Man, I wish I could buy some Apple shares then!!
>What's non-voting share? I heard it in the vid too. He said share- everyone booed. Then he said it's non-voting and everyone clapped!!! WTF?
Non-voting share probably means no MS representative on the Apple board of directors. That means even though Bill owns a lot of Apple shares, he can't come into the board room one fine day and say "Make the next Mac a really crappy one".
Apple needed money, so they needed MS's investment. And MS probably wanted to show the world that they had pwned Apple. And of course, as history showed, it was a really great business investment too.
>And yeah dude... I dunno what those numbers mean anyway, but i am smart enough to understand Appy's growth from the graph. The good things started happening in 2000. Then 2004 - 2007... Whoa what a growth man... What happened in 2004-2005? OSX LeoparD? :o
The growth is mainly due to the iPod, I think. That really increased the hype of Apple. Initially, many people had thought Jobs's idea of iPod was stupid. But later, now, some people are amazed that Apple makes computers too!!! :P
>So, MS is losing to Appy. but MS earns through Appy's success too eh? Some irony!
In the second video, Steve says, "We have to let go of this notion that for Apple to win, Microsoft has to lose".
I think it's time for MS to say something like that. They have to let go of the notion that for Microsoft to win, Google has to lose. :)
Like many articles I have read recently, MS is trying too hard to compete with Google in areas Google is extremely good at, and so they are not concentrating enough on areas MS has traditionally been good at. The result is products like Vista. :D
>Yea! MS is losing its focus! Y do they want Everything (TM)!
hehe :D
And not just Google. Even Apple, Sony... They released Zune so that they could compete with Apple. And XBox so that they could compete with Sony. Why would they do that? Of course, the Xbox 360 is doing extremely well compared to PS3, but I think MS is digressing too much from their core business... And their core business is getting really affected.
>Ya, now, MS is losing its hold in its main arena, but doing really well in Gaming - Games as well as Consoles, and then Office Software, then hmmm... what else man? I wont say it's doing great in online business though. I mean MSN sux. Live messenger sux too
Hotmail sucks too. :) Their spam filters are the worst!!! I have stopped using Hotmail, I check it once a week or so because that's the one I have used in many official things like IBM campus placement... I wish I had given Gmail...
Man, I love Google... :) I think Google is going to be god really soon. (Have you read the Google future scenarios article?)
>Is this it?
MS sees the future - and it's Google
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1880962,00.asp
>Hear this dude -
Google signed up about eight new hires per day in 2005--a lot of them from Microsoft, many among the smartest people on the planet at what they do.
Name any long-term technology bet you can think of--genome-tailored drugs, artificial intelligence, the space elevator--and chances are, there's a team in the Googleplex working on an application.!!!
>But dont be too happy about Google.
Here's a foresight I read in one site -
What kind of company will Google become in the coming decades?
Or will it grow into an omnipresent, omnipotent force--not just on Wall Street or the Web, but in society?
Will Google attain monopolistic power, lording over the media, the Internet, and scientific development itself?
I'm scared already. We need MS too man. If MS falls, Google will take over the online world and Apple, the offline! :o
>It's been a long time since "Google" referred solely to a company in Silicon Valley. Its lawyers were battling use of the verb "to google" as early as 2003. But during the past decade, especially among the generation born after the millennium, the word has become interchangeable with "Internet," "computer," and "phone call." As in "Did you see that movie on google?," "Mind if I borrow your google?," and "Give me a google later in the week." This is no mere linguistic sloth. For most daily purposes, Google has become the technology platform, the communications network, and the Internet itself.
It's already started. U just didnt know. It's a verb now!!! Scary.
You scared too? Search F.O.G now... Goo**... errr... I mean search for the acronym F.O.G in your search engine... Shit.. :o
>READ THIS if U think F.O.G is crap.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/business2/business2_archive/2006/01/01/8368125/index.htm
Go down, further down... Nah, Read it all. Dont stop in between. I'm damn scared man.
Let MS fall. I don't care. And yeah, Google will become the omnipresent omnipotent force - know anything else described like that? :)
>Just read that article I sent ya in the end. And search for F.O.G.
Google is Satan. MS is life.
That's the article I was talking about!!! :)
Last scenario: Google is God! :D
>Yeah! U love that last article? about google's software bot taking over the world by making copies of itself into the chips embedded in every bird, animal and human being born and then the "They-Who-Were-Google are no longer alone. Now we are all Google." Aaaaaaaaa........
Nice!!! :)
>Nice? Search for F.O.G. Instead of Nice, u shud have said Oh my GOd...
I know. Fear Of Google???
>OK I'm changing the topic back to the less intimidating MS-Apple Story.
Check this out and then all the other parts of the series.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5Z7eal4uXI
Steve Jobs and Bill Gates Together: Part 1 of 7
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsKKQNZG3rE
Apple Bloopers!!
- Looks like "It Just Works" is one big lie - like I told the other day
>Sooo.... Simple, to get a babe if U hav a Mac dude -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ixr86xtk1o
Macintosh Tips & Tricks To Impress The Ladies, Episode #1
I mean those tips are like those I learned the first day I touched ma computer! But still it's the form factor and the UI that really makes gals go crazy!
>Apparently, there are people who hate Macs (I mean people other than those MS guys ;) ) ... And Mac aint as good as I thought it is. It has got some hundreds of bugs too, though not millions as in Windows :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okeBJICS_tQ
Anti-Macintosh
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Dunno what happened, but Milf kinda went silent. Busy tinkering his Ubuntu I guess.
That's all for today guys.
Enjoy those videos.
Cheers.
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